got an update email about the conti case.
maybe someone can tell us what it means.. http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/disposition.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641 .
Hmm. So, the WT presumably blew right through that 10 day window.
It sounds as if the 'SS Watchtower' has a (legal) crack in her hull, and is about to get torpedoed with more lawsuits? These recent money grabs sound analagous to bailing water from a sinking ship.
These other lawsuits must be hush-hush. Perhaps they're under gag orders in some states? It just seems awfully quiet out there since the Conti appeal case, and the Lopez case before that.
got an update email about the conti case.
maybe someone can tell us what it means.. http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/disposition.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641 .
Ok...so WHEN will the Watchtower make their decision to:
a) Take it to the Federal level (Sup. Court).
b) or, take what they've got & try to deal with it?
There MUST be a deadline for them to 'fish or cut bait.' X number of days since the California appellate court's decision?
the conti verdict was made in mid-april.
presumably, the wt&ts has until a certain date to decide whether to take the case to supreme court or not.
does anyone know how long this period is from the date of the court's decision?
The Conti verdict was made in mid-April. Presumably, the WT&TS has until a certain date to decide whether to take the case to Supreme Court or not. Does anyone know how long this period is from the date of the court's decision? I'm thinking 30, 60, or 90 calender days.
Does anyone know for sure? I'm betting that regardless of the deadline, the WT will wait until the last minute of the last day to make any such move.
does anyone know where i can find numbers of how many child abuse cases have been brought against jws or settled out of court?.
i know that 1 is too many and statistics don't reflect the horror suffered, but i would like some numbers to use when explaining to others the reasons for my decreased activity and to have support for my reasons for 'stumbling', facts which might make others think too.. im from uk so it helps that the charities commission is investigating there and also there's a paedophiles exposed website which names 32 jws convicted in uk since 2012, horrifying!
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com.
I'd like to add something. It's been just over a month since the Conti verdict at the Calif Court of Appeals, which found the WT&TS negligent in not protecting minors during door-to-door 'publishing.'
Question: how long does the WT have to decide whether to accept the verdict vs take it to the Federal Level, i.e. Supreme Court?? It seems to me, that their decision at this legal 'fork in the road,' will have a big impact on how the pending lawsuits progress. If the WT decides NOT to fight, then it seems they are inviting more lawsuits, with the California precedent having been set.
1 corinthians 7:14 tells us: "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.".
so the sanctification of children of "christians" depends on the holiness of their parents not the "baptism" of young children.
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Got it. Please post anything other Watchtower articles on this topic. I remember about 10 years ago, a JW bragging to me how, unlike the Catholics, "we don't do infant, or young children baptisms....most of them are youths of middle school to high school age (13 to 16)."
So, I'm wondering if there was anything printed by more recently (1980s to early 2000s) that would agree with those WT articles from the 1950s. The more 'ammo' the better, I'm thinking. I could see them saying, "1950s...well that was OLD LIGHT." At which point I would show them something more recent. Along with the appropriate Bible verses. That would shut 'em down pretty quickly, I'd reckon.
1 corinthians 7:14 tells us: "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.".
so the sanctification of children of "christians" depends on the holiness of their parents not the "baptism" of young children.
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Blondie, I'd like to look up some of the references you posted, so I can show it to some JDubs.
Forgive my ignorance, but how would I translate this (for example):
w56 5/15
...is it the 1956 Watchtower, from May 15?
it was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but i cannot find it.
it was a great rant & well thought out.
it basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.. i'd really like to find that person's reply, so i can use the same logic with some of my family members.
Yessss! Bingo.
thanks a bunch!
it was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but i cannot find it.
it was a great rant & well thought out.
it basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.. i'd really like to find that person's reply, so i can use the same logic with some of my family members.
It was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but I cannot find it. It was a great rant & well thought out. It basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.
I'd really like to find that person's reply, so I can use the same logic with some of my family members. If anyone can cut/paste it, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks.
hey guys!
some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.
i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.
I'm willing to bet that you could find more affordable services doing an internet search for India. There are plenty of highly qualified 'techies' there, who, like Indian doctors & hospitals, charge much less than their western counterparts.
Also, I think you would do well to advertise, on THIS site, that you seek 'awake' JWs who are in the upper ranks. Offer them a way to contact you via private message, or create a very basic website just for that purpose. Cedar's "JW Survey" site is a good example, though your site need not be as sophisticated as his. Eventually, you (we) might want to modify the site to resemble the JW.ORG site as previously mentioned. But, your first priority needs to be the recruiting of JW spies.
Oh, and the very fact that I'm being candid about this, is part of the psy-ops. You know they read this stuff, so if they know a 'guerilla' campaign is in the planning stages, they will be all the more paranoid, and suspicious of one another. Your (our) job is to ensure that the actual identities of these moles remains strictly confidential. In fact, you might only get to know them by their aliases. That's fine, and you'll want to protect your identity as well. As a college student, you may have read about the Watergate scandal, and the source known as 'Deepthroat.' Same kind of stuff, except you're not commiting treason. Well, not the kind that'll land you in Leavenworth- LoL.
Godspeed young man. Maybe you can be the JW equivalent of Neo, from the Matrix.
"Mr. Aaaaanderson"
hey guys!
some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.
i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.
Hacking is an excellent idea. I'm not able to send you PMs with specific info, but this might give you some general guidance: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/01/16/hacker_s_list_is_a_website_for_hiring_hackers.html
